CINEMIRACLE - SCREEN CURVATURE

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Does anyone know what the curvature of the Cinemiracle screens were? The March 1957 issue of the International Projectionist stated 146 degrees.I understood that it was much much smaller - about 90 degrees. Both the Roxy (NYC) and Grauman's Chinese (Los Angeles) screens were listed as both being 100 feet wide.It is difficult to tell the curvature degree from the photos that I have of the screens taken from several publications from 1957/58. Does anyone also know what happened to the film THE MIRACLE ,which was planned to be the second film shot in Cinemiracle?

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Does anyone know what  the  curvature of the Cinemiracle screens were? The March  1957 issue of the International Projectionist  stated  146 degrees.I understood that it was much much  smaller - about 90 degrees. Both the Roxy (NYC) and Grauman's Chinese (Los Angeles) screens   were listed as both being 100 feet wide.It is difficult to tell the  curvature degree from the photos that I have of the screens taken from several publications  from 1957/58. Does anyone also know what happened to the film THE MIRACLE ,which was  planned to be the second  film shot in Cinemiracle?

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but I'm sure it varied from what theatre it played in.

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Does anyone know what  the  curvature of the Cinemiracle screens were? The March  1957 issue of the International Projectionist  stated  146 degrees.I understood that it was much much  smaller - about 90 degrees. Both the Roxy (NYC) and Grauman's Chinese (Los Angeles) screens   were listed as both being 100 feet wide.It is difficult to tell the  curvature degree from the photos that I have of the screens taken from several publications  from 1957/58. Does anyone also know what happened to the film THE MIRACLE ,which was  planned to be the second  film shot in Cinemiracle?

WINDJAMMER played at the PLAZA(Sydney Australia) in Cinerama on a 146
Degrees 76ft(around the curve) by 28 feet Tall strip screen..

I have heard somewhere that Graumann's installed a 120 degrees
curved Solid screen. for WINDJAMMER?

Regards,
Peter Mason

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Does anyone know what  the  curvature of the Cinemiracle screens were? The March  1957 issue of the International Projectionist  stated  146 degrees.I understood that it was much much  smaller - about 90 degrees. Both the Roxy (NYC) and Grauman's Chinese (Los Angeles) screens   were listed as both being 100 feet wide.It is difficult to tell the  curvature degree from the photos that I have of the screens taken from several publications  from 1957/58. Does anyone also

know what happened to the film THE MIRACLE ,which was  planned to be the second  film shot in Cinemiracle?

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WINDJAMMER played at the PLAZA(Sydney Australia) in Cinerama on a 146
Degrees 76ft(around the curve) by 28 feet Tall strip screen..
I have heard somewhere that Graumann's installed a 120 degrees
curved Solid screen. for WINDJAMMER?
Regards,
Peter Mason

It was Cinemiracle's intention to use a 120 degree curve, the most curve
you can have before the cross reflections on a single sheet screen
totally wash out the image. However lesser curves were used where
necessary. Unlike Cinerama, which leased theatres and did major
renovations to install their complex system, Cinemiracle made no
arrangements beyond the run of "Windjammer". Thus they were not able to
optimize their installations.

Showings of "Windjammer" on 146 degree screens was done AFTER Cinerama
acquired the assets of Cinemiracle Corp. and began showing the film as a
Cinerama engagement, "Filmed in Cinemiracle, Presented in Cinerama."

When it became apparent that there would be no further three-strip
Cinerama films virtually all new Cinerama theatres used 120 single sheet
screens.

In my opinion, and that of others that have had relatively recent
chances to compare 120 versus 146 degree three-strip, the deeper curve,
matching the camera optics, is vastly more involving.

Marty

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Does anyone know what  the  curvature of the Cinemiracle screens were? The March  1957 issue of the International Projectionist  stated  146 degrees.I understood that it was much much  smaller - about 90 degrees. Both the Roxy (NYC) and Grauman's Chinese (Los Angeles) screens   were listed as both being 100 feet wide.It is difficult to tell the  curvature degree from the photos that I have of the screens taken from several publications  from 1957/58. Does anyone also

know what happened to the film THE MIRACLE ,which was  planned to be the second  film shot in Cinemiracle?

Post by c***@hotmail.com
WINDJAMMER played at the PLAZA(Sydney Australia) in Cinerama on a 146
Degrees 76ft(around the curve) by 28 feet Tall strip screen..
I have heard somewhere that Graumann's installed a 120 degrees
curved Solid screen. for WINDJAMMER?
Regards,
Peter Mason

It was Cinemiracle's intention to use a 120 degree curve, the most curve
you can have before the cross reflections on a single sheet screen
totally wash out the image. However lesser curves were used where
necessary. Unlike Cinerama, which leased theatres and did major
renovations to install their complex system, Cinemiracle made no
arrangements beyond the run of "Windjammer". Thus they were not able to
optimize their installations.
Showings of "Windjammer" on 146 degree screens was done AFTER Cinerama
acquired the assets of Cinemiracle Corp. and began showing the film as a
Cinerama engagement, "Filmed in Cinemiracle, Presented in Cinerama."
When it became apparent that there would be no further three-strip
Cinerama films virtually all new Cinerama theatres used 120 single sheet
screens.
In my opinion, and that of others that have had relatively recent
chances to compare 120 versus 146 degree three-strip, the deeper curve,
matching the camera optics, is vastly more involving.
Marty

I saw Windjammer here in NZ on the normal Cinerama screen..

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Does anyone know what  the  curvature of the Cinemiracle screens were? The March  1957 issue of the International Projectionist  stated  146 degrees.I understood that it was much much  smaller - about 90 degrees. Both the Roxy (NYC) and Grauman's Chinese (Los Angeles) screens   were listed as both being 100 feet wide.It is difficult to tell the  curvature degree from the photos that I have of the screens taken from several publications  from 1957/58. Does anyone also

know what happened to the film THE MIRACLE ,which was  planned to be the second  film shot in Cinemiracle?

Post by c***@hotmail.com
WINDJAMMER played at the PLAZA(Sydney Australia) in Cinerama on a 146
Degrees 76ft(around the curve) by 28 feet Tall strip screen..
I have heard somewhere that Graumann's installed a 120 degrees
curved Solid screen. for WINDJAMMER?
Regards,
Peter Mason

It was Cinemiracle's intention to use a 120 degree curve, the most curve
you can have before the cross reflections on a single sheet screen
totally wash out the image. However lesser curves were used where
necessary. Unlike Cinerama, which leased theatres and did major
renovations to install their complex system, Cinemiracle made no
arrangements beyond the run of "Windjammer". Thus they were not able to
optimize their installations.
Showings of "Windjammer" on 146 degree screens was done AFTER Cinerama
acquired the assets of Cinemiracle Corp. and began showing the film as a
Cinerama engagement, "Filmed in Cinemiracle, Presented in Cinerama."
When it became apparent that there would be no further three-strip
Cinerama films virtually all new Cinerama theatres used 120 single sheet
screens.
In my opinion, and that of others that have had relatively recent
chances to compare 120 versus 146 degree three-strip, the deeper curve,
matching the camera optics, is vastly more involving.
Marty

I saw Windjammer here in NZ on the normal Cinerama screen..

So did I

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Does anyone know what  the  curvature of the Cinemiracle screens were? The March  1957 issue of the International Projectionist  stated  146 degrees.I understood that it was much much  smaller - about 90 degrees. Both the Roxy (NYC) and Grauman's Chinese (Los Angeles) screens   were listed as both being 100 feet wide.It is difficult to tell the  curvature degree from the photos that I have of the screens taken from several publications  from 1957/58. Does anyone also

know what happened to the film THE MIRACLE ,which was  planned to be the second  film shot in Cinemiracle?

Post by c***@hotmail.com
WINDJAMMER played at the PLAZA(Sydney Australia) in Cinerama on a 146
Degrees 76ft(around the curve) by 28 feet Tall strip screen..
I have heard somewhere that Graumann's installed a 120 degrees
curved Solid screen. for WINDJAMMER?
Regards,
Peter Mason

It was Cinemiracle's intention to use a 120 degree curve, the most curve
you can have before the cross reflections on a single sheet screen
totally wash out the image. However lesser curves were used where
necessary. Unlike Cinerama, which leased theatres and did major
renovations to install their complex system, Cinemiracle made no
arrangements beyond the run of "Windjammer". Thus they were not able to
optimize their installations.
Showings of "Windjammer" on 146 degree screens was done AFTER Cinerama
acquired the assets of Cinemiracle Corp. and began showing the film as a
Cinerama engagement, "Filmed in Cinemiracle, Presented in Cinerama."
When it became apparent that there would be no further three-strip
Cinerama films virtually all new Cinerama theatres used 120 single sheet
screens.
In my opinion, and that of others that have had relatively recent
chances to compare 120 versus 146 degree three-strip, the deeper curve,
matching the camera optics, is vastly more involving.
Marty

I saw Windjammer here in NZ on the normal Cinerama screen..

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Post by Martin Hart
In my opinion, and that of others that have had relatively recent
chances to compare 120 versus 146 degree three-strip, the deeper curve,
matching the camera optics, is vastly more involving.
Marty
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The American WideScreen Museumwww.widescreenmuseum.com

The original intent of Cinerama was to have a deeply curved screen,
not necessarily to have three cameras & projectors. That was simply
the only way to fill such a screen at that time. When "single-lens"
Cinerama required a shallower screen, the original intent and
immersive experience were diminished. At that point, it wouldn't have
mattered how many projectors they used.

With today's optics and digital capabilities, there is no reason why
deeply curved screens couldn't again be enveloping audiences. But that
would require theatres that aren't simple boxes, movie sets that are
truly expansive, etc., and since it wouldn't be as cheap as possible,
then it won't be done.