Digital Preservation?

[cinemad]

With 35mm film we have tried and proven preservation techniques such b/w separations, Interpositives etc.

With digital Video, every few years a new system is introduced and the former systems become obsolete.

How will we retrieve a Digital film produced in 2014 in say 2034?

Regards,
Peter Mason

[R***@theatresupport.com]

Post by cinemad
With 35mm film we have tried and proven preservation techniques such b/w separations, Interpositives etc.
With digital Video, every few years a new system is introduced and the former systems become obsolete.
How will we retrieve a Digital film produced in 2014 in say 2034?
Regards,
Peter Mason

If history is a teacher, from private collectors. What may end up being a
bigger problem are the made for cable or made for tv productions, where the logo
and advertising bugs and the minimizing of the credit rolls will prevent any
viewing of the original artistic intent.

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by cinemad
With 35mm film we have tried and proven preservation techniques such b/w separations, Interpositives etc.
With digital Video, every few years a new system is introduced and the former systems become obsolete.
How will we retrieve a Digital film produced in 2014 in say 2034?

If the studio that made it cared about it, they pulled B&W film separations
off the digital file, using the Fuji digital archiving stock, and put them
in a vault.

If the studio that made it cared about it, they put a file in a "digital vault"
which is regularly refreshed, in a standard format that is documented. The
format may become obsolete but as long as the format is documented it's possible
to write a decoder.

There are a lot of gotchas here on both approaches, and the Library of
Congress has been engaging people in the archive community about discussing
them. There was a really good seminar a few months ago which may have a
summary online somewhere.

The real problem, as always, comes with the films that the owners didn't care
about, but which somehow became culturally important. Every print of
Nosferatu that we have is a dupe off of one projection print that somebody
saved. For every Nosferatu there are a dozen films that were lost.
--scott

[cinemad]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by cinemad
With 35mm film we have tried and proven preservation techniques such b/w separations, Interpositives etc.
With digital Video, every few years a new system is introduced and the former systems become obsolete.
How will we retrieve a Digital film produced in 2014 in say 2034?

If the studio that made it cared about it, they pulled B&W film separations
off the digital file, using the Fuji digital archiving stock, and put them
in a vault.

Is Fuji Digital Archiving Film an Interpositive Film similar to Kodak 5242.
If not what is the equivalent Kodak Stock?


Regards,
Peter Mason>

Post by Scott Dorsey
If the studio that made it cared about it, they put a file in a "digital vault"
which is regularly refreshed, in a standard format that is documented. The
format may become obsolete but as long as the format is documented it's possible
to write a decoder.
There are a lot of gotchas here on both approaches, and the Library of
Congress has been engaging people in the archive community about discussing
them. There was a really good seminar a few months ago which may have a
summary online somewhere.
The real problem, as always, comes with the films that the owners didn't care
about, but which somehow became culturally important. Every print of
Nosferatu that we have is a dupe off of one projection print that somebody
saved. For every Nosferatu there are a dozen films that were lost.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Scott Dorsey]

Post by cinemad
Is Fuji Digital Archiving Film an Interpositive Film similar to Kodak 5242.
If not what is the equivalent Kodak Stock?

No, it's a B&W stock intended for photoplotting. You don't want to put color
dye images into an archive.

The Kodak equivalent would be 2237 Digital Separation Film.
--scott

[cinemad]

Post by Scott Dorsey

Post by cinemad
Is Fuji Digital Archiving Film an Interpositive Film similar to Kodak 5242.
If not what is the equivalent Kodak Stock?

No, it's a B&W stock intended for photoplotting. You don't want to put color
dye images into an archive.
The Kodak equivalent would be 2237 Digital Separation Film.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

all the studios think about is saving money. I predict there will be huge
problems in the future trying to restore films shot on Digital at the present time.One thing the studios don't have is foresight.They don't care about future problems only saving money for the present. Is Spielberg still shooting on film?

peter mason