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Fujifilm Quits (Most) Motion Picture Film Biz
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Steve Kraus
2012-09-13 22:09:24 UTC
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cinemad
2012-09-14 06:31:16 UTC
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Post by Steve Kraus
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Good for KODAK?

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Peter M
Scott Dorsey
2012-09-14 13:59:43 UTC
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Post by Steve Kraus
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Good for KODAK?
Probably good for Kodak but bad for the marketplace. Fuji actually knows
how to make film in small quantities and make money off doing so, while
Kodak has no clue and no understanding of the market.

If I had to depend on one company for print stock, I'd sure wish it were
Fuji and not Kodak.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Derek Gee
2012-09-17 00:11:44 UTC
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Post by Steve Kraus
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Good for KODAK?
Probably good for Kodak but bad for the marketplace. Fuji actually knows
how to make film in small quantities and make money off doing so, while
Kodak has no clue and no understanding of the market.
I've read that Kodak is going back to their previous way of manfacturing
film stock, which allows more profit on smaller runs. Since Kodak has 80%
of the Hollywood film market, it makes sense for Fuji to exit. Fuji will
probably end up being the primary manufacturer of amateur film worldwide, as
I expect that Kodak will be unable to sell that film business to anyone.

Derek
Scott Dorsey
2012-09-17 14:03:49 UTC
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Post by Derek Gee
I've read that Kodak is going back to their previous way of manfacturing
film stock, which allows more profit on smaller runs. Since Kodak has 80%
of the Hollywood film market, it makes sense for Fuji to exit. Fuji will
probably end up being the primary manufacturer of amateur film worldwide, as
I expect that Kodak will be unable to sell that film business to anyone.
I haven't seen that. All of the short alleys were bulldozed back in 1983 or
so as part of Kodak's big expansion, so in order to go back to a short alley
for small runs, Kodak is going to have to build new facilities and that means
actually spending capital.

Fuji actually has a huge amount of the print stock market, and really all of
the volume is in print stock. Camera stock sells a lot less volume, although
there is probably far more profit in it. Nobody complains if there is a
defect in a thousand feet of print stock but one bubble in a thousand feet of
camera stock and heads roll. So they are really two different products with
different production demands but they are both motion picture products.

The print stock market is in the process of collapsing right now.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Derek Gee
2012-09-18 00:02:36 UTC
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Post by Derek Gee
I've read that Kodak is going back to their previous way of manfacturing
film stock, which allows more profit on smaller runs.
Apparently, these were comments made by Beverly Pasterczyk at a SMPTE
presentation...

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/film-discussion-q/283570-rumor-kodak-future-film.html

Derek
Scott Dorsey
2012-09-18 13:20:19 UTC
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Post by Derek Gee
I've read that Kodak is going back to their previous way of manfacturing
film stock, which allows more profit on smaller runs.
Apparently, these were comments made by Beverly Pasterczyk at a SMPTE
presentation...
http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/film-discussion-q/283570-rumor-kodak-future-film.html
This is very good news. I'm very curious what the new technology system
is like.

I'm saddened that this couldn't have come along before they discontinued
Kodachrome.... now that the processing line is gone, making new film is
probably futile which is a shame since Kodachrome is the one stock that
would be perfect for digital archiving.

I will say that if they are still doing 54-inch jumbos, that still means
a fairly large production run. I think the guys at Kentmere are doing little
9-inch wide jumbos, which means more waste but means it's possible to do a
run of four or five thousand feet at a pop.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Derek Gee
2012-09-19 02:53:53 UTC
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Post by Scott Dorsey
I'm saddened that this couldn't have come along before they discontinued
Kodachrome.... now that the processing line is gone, making new film is
probably futile which is a shame since Kodachrome is the one stock that
would be perfect for digital archiving.
Anyone know if Dwayne's still retains their Kodachrome processor? All Kodak
would have to do is make another batch of processing chemicals if the
machine still exists...

Derek

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